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Discussion for Today
[edit]- This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025_May_1
May 1
[edit]NEW NOMINATIONS
[edit]Category:French addiction physicians
[edit]- Propose merging Category:French addiction physicians to Category:Addiction physicians
- Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry. Also merge with Category:French physicians.
Also nominating for merge:
- Category:Kyrgyzstani addiction physicians with Category:Addiction physicians and
- Category:Norwegian addiction physicians to Category:Addiction physicians and Category:Norwegian physicians. LibStar (talk) 06:31, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:Nazi German Gulag detainees
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Nazi German Gulag detainees to Category:German Gulag detainees
- Nominator's rationale: narrow category at the intersection of political orientation, nationality, and prison location SMasonGarrison 03:09, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Nothing to do with political orientation, only nationality. Wikipedia say: Nazi Germany "was the German state between 1933 and 1945". --Altenmann >talk 05:09, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Works set in American cities
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Works set in Mobile, Alabama to Category:Culture of Mobile, Alabama
- Propose merging Category:Works set in Flagstaff, Arizona to Category:Flagstaff, Arizona
- Propose merging Category:Works set in Fayetteville, Arkansas to Category:Culture of Fayetteville, Arkansas
- Propose merging Category:Works set in Fort Smith, Arkansas to Category:Culture of Fort Smith, Arkansas
- Propose merging Category:Works set in Little Rock, Arkansas to Category:Culture of Little Rock, Arkansas
- Propose merging Category:Works set in West Memphis, Arkansas to Category:Culture of West Memphis, Arkansas
- Propose merging Category:Works set in Cupertino, California to Category:Cupertino, California
- Propose merging Category:Works set in Irvine, California to Category:Culture of Irvine, California
- Propose merging Category:Works set in Long Beach, California to Category:Culture of Long Beach, California
- Propose merging Category:Works set in Palo Alto, California to Category:Palo Alto, California
- Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory each. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:59, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: These categories were not tagged; I will do so. If there are no further comments we should be all set to merge :)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:48, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:Works by Deobandis
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Works by Deobandis to Category:Works by Deobandi writers
- Nominator's rationale: Corresponding to the naming format used for subcats within sibling Category:Works by writer nationality. – Fayenatic London 19:50, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose, Actually, not all Deobandis are writers. Some were teachers whose teachings were later published in written form—sometimes without their knowledge. Some were muftis who issued rulings that were later compiled and published.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 20:12, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- If they have not written it themselves then Category:Works by Deobandis is an equally wrong category name. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:49, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle: Can you explain why in detail?–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 22:24, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Because then it is not the work of the Deobandi. But I wonder, is this a real argument or a hypothetical argument? Does this category really contain some works that weren't written by Deobandis? Marcocapelle (talk) 22:59, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle: Let me explain. "Deobandi" refers to a school of thought within Sunni Islam, and "Deobandis" are its followers. For example, Anwar Shah Kashmiri is a well-known Deobandi scholar who served as the chief Hadith teacher at Darul Uloom Deoband for many years. Although he was a distinguished scholar, he had no interest in writing. One of his students published Al-Arf al-Shadhi, a compilation of Anwar Shah Kashmiri's teachings on Sunan al-Tirmidhi. Later, another student of his published Maarif al-Sunan, which also compiled his teachings on the same subject. Maarif al-Sunan argued that Al-Arf al-Shadhi contradicted Anwar Shah Kashmiri's original teachings. In this case, both books can be considered works of Anwar Shah Kashmiri, as they are compilations of his teachings, even though he did not write them himself.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 00:13, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- Ok, so that means that Category:Books by Anwar Shah Kashmiri is a wrong name too, it should be Category:Books about Anwar Shah Kashmiri's teachings or Category:Books about Anwar Shah Kashmiri in short. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:51, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle: Can you explain why in detail?–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 22:24, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose, Actually, not all Deobandis are writers. Some were teachers whose teachings were later published in written form—sometimes without their knowledge. Some were muftis who issued rulings that were later compiled and published.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 20:12, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:48, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:Equity Media Holdings
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Defunct company; stations have been sold Mvcg66b3r (talk) 17:15, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose: Closure of a business is irrelevant to the category's continued usefulness in relation to that company. - Davidships (talk) 19:08, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Davidships's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:44, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:Hydro-Tasmania power development schemes
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: C2D with Hydro Tasmania Ahaohahg (talk) 01:31, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Ahaohahg: shouldn't it become Category:Hydro Tasmania power development schemes (with "power")? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:16, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:39, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:People of the Hydro-Electric Commission of Tasmania
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: C2D with Hydro Tasmania Ahaohahg (talk) 01:28, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Just move the article about the book to Category:Hydro-Tasmania. It is not a defining characteristic of the other two articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:22, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Ahaohahg: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's comment? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:32, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:39, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:Executed Jack the Ripper suspects
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: I don't think that this intersection is defining. It seems to capture an extremely narrow intersection of suspects, cause of death, and the specific crime. SMasonGarrison 02:14, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Category:Intentional communities
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Intentional communities to Category:Intentional community
- Nominator's rationale: Topic category names are supposed to be singular. Fractaloid (talk) 02:06, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose - I don't believe the nominating rationale is the case, or makes sense. CeltBrowne (talk) 02:16, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) @CeltBrowne: WP:TOPICCAT is clear that topic categories are supposed to be singular.This category has been tagged as such since early 2024. But this looks like a set-and-topic category. I'd remove the {{topic category}} banner and not rename, but if there is not consensus to remove the {{topic category}}, rename as nominated. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:57, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- The nominating rationale seems to be accurate. I can’t speak to whether it makes sense or not. Fractaloid (talk) 02:54, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose - I don't believe the nominating rationale is the case, or makes sense. CeltBrowne (talk) 02:16, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Just remove the topic category banner, that will solve the problem in a more accurate manner. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:06, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Of course it is not a topic category: it is not about intricacies of the notion intentional community, but categorizes things known as international communities. By the way, as such, does it need {{Set category}} banner? --Altenmann >talk 05:21, 1 May 2025 (UTC)